- BRS 150 GPD Water Saver Upgrade Kit
Why does BRS recommend this?
The 150 GPD water saving upgrade kit is probably our most recommended RODI upgrade. If you have proper pressure (65+ PSI) we highly recommend installing the kit, because it will produce water twice as fast as a standard 75 GPD membrane while cutting the amount of wastewater in in half.
The BRS 150 GPD Water Saver Upgrade Kit will increase the production of any BRS 75 GPD reverse osmosis system to 150 GPD without having to use any additional water. With the installation of this kit water production will increase from approximately three gallons per hour to six gallons per hour! It does require 65psi or more into the first membrane in order to function properly and be effecient. If your home's water pressure is less then the recommended PSI do not worry, adding a booster pump is simple and only takes a couple of minutes.
- Minimum Water Pressure - 65 PSI
- Max Water Pressure - 90 PSI
- Recommended Water Temperature - 77°F
- Recommended Max TDS - <300ppm
Water pressure can be increased by adding a booster pump before your RO/DI system if a pressure increase is required. Low pressure will cause slow production of product water, with excess production of wastewater. Pressure over 90 PSI may cause damage to the RO/DI units filters and components.
- One Dow 75 GPD membrane
- Two 2.5" x 2.5" membrane clips
- Two 1/8" x ¼" 90-degree elbows
- 1/8" x ¼" 90° check valve
- RO membrane housing
- ¼" tube splitter
- 5 Feet of Red, White, Blue and Black RO Line
DOW Filmtec 75 GPD Membranes have a 96% - 99% typical stabilized salt rejection rate that can be reproduced through the following conditions;
- Source Water Pressure - 50 PSI / Membrane
- Source Water Temperature - 77°F
- Source Water TDS - 250ppm Softened Tap Water
- Recovery - 15%
- Minimum Salt Rejection - 96%
If you are purchasing a reverse osmosis unit from us at the same time as this 150 GPD Upgrade Kit please mention in your order comments if you would like us to install the unit for you.If you select this option, there may be a one day delay in shipping your order due to additional time considerations. 150GPD water saving upgrade kit is not recommended for units with high TDS* or drinking water systems**.
*High TDS - Source water with high TDS we do not recommend using the 150 GPD water saving upgrade kit. If used you may experience increased DI consumption. The system will work as intended increasing filtered water production rate and decreasing the amount of waste water, but the overall amount of TDS that comes out of the system may be slightly higher than a single membrane system. Because of that your DI consumption will increase. We do recommend using two DI canisters for 150 GPD systems.
**Drinking Water RO Systems - When filling up the pressure tank will increase the back pressure, in turn will take longer to fill and increase the waste water produced by the RO system. We highly recommend a permeate pump for these applications to minimize waste water.
Great product By James on 4/8/2018James would recommend this product to a friendDoes everything as said it would. Great item makes water faster than any other rodi unit I’ve ever used.
Excellent By Adam on 3/6/2018Adam would recommend this product to a friendSo happy I bought this. Exactly as they say. Watch the video. It’s well worth the cost. I wish I would of got this sooner.
Worth every penny By Xclusive_Reef on 2/17/2018Xclusive_Reef would recommend this product to a friendI bought this upgrade and can’t be happier. I can now make
Water faster. I would give it 5 star but it wastes more water. I would for sure recommend this upgrade to everyone.
Wish I had done this sooner . . . By John on 2/9/2018John would recommend this product to a friendI have had my system for about 6 years now and required a booster pump due to the pressure being so low. We were getting about 25 gallons in about 12 hours. We moved just a few months ago and the pressure is a lot better at the new location so I added this 150 kit on back in September and now I am getting 30 gallons in under 4 hours and very little waste down the drain. Great add on!
Valued Upgrade By Flip on 2/7/2018Flip would recommend this product to a friendI have a base 4-stage RO system from Water General that I have used for years. Most recently I have been using it to produce brewing water since I have been out of the reefkeeping hobby a few years. Before this upgrade, I had a 3:1 rejection rate from softened water, 4 gph yield and chlorine of 4 ppm. After this install, my rejection rate is now 1.4:1 with 7 gph yield and no chlorine. A valuable upgrade.
Just installed my 150 By MoneyMillz on 12/31/2017MoneyMillz would recommend this product to a friendGreat so far. I gave it 4 stars until I see how well it performs.
Outstanding By Mark on 12/14/2017Mark would recommend this product to a friendOutstanding product. I used to have an approximate 1½ to 1 waste water to product water ratio before installing the upgrade on my 75 gpd, 6-stage system; taking about 40 minutes to produce five gallons. Now five gallons are produced in about 16 minutes with only 1 2/3 cups of waste water. Yes, one and two-thirds cups of waste water.
Great product if they don't send you a kit that's already damaged. By Michael on 12/13/2017Michael would recommend this product to a friendWhen I got the product, it was in a box, in a plastic bag with one of the elbows broken off. I called BED and they sent another plastic elbow and plastic membrane housing but the elbow was too big to screw in the connection on the plastic membrane housing. BRS has poor quality control. Great product but get it somewhere else.
Saves a lot of H2O By Carmen R. on 11/16/2017Carmen R. would recommend this product to a friendWorks great. Certainly saves a lot of water compared to before I had it.
Well worth it to upgrade! By Jesse on 5/12/2017Jesse would recommend this product to a friendThis increased my ro output by double and lowered the waste water. My tds stayed at 0 output. It fills my ro container so fast now. I only increased my water pressure to 60 psi and it works great. Every ro system should be sold with this.
great product By jmol on 5/9/2017jmol would recommend this product to a friendIt worked awesome was excited about the water reduction as i also used a SMARTBUDDY PUMP to boost and easy hook up all was great set up but for some odd reason i seen my lines shaking i do all acheck up on all and membranes x2 failed and just resently purchased no more than 2moths or 2.5 months. Water pressure regulated to 85-88 psi it says 90 max yet they failed. OUCH!!! Everything easy hook up. With smart buddy pump. What can be done?? Please helps these membranes are do to last with great care which always do at least 2 good years. HELLLPPP!
Well worth it! By Scott on 4/12/2017Scott would recommend this product to a friendI have a non BRS ro/di setup and was running a 100gpd membrane, watching 4 gallons go down the drain to the 1 gallon I was making just seemed such a waste. I am fortunate to have high water pressure so a booster pump was not needed. Installation was easy and now I am close to a 1.5:1 ratio for waste water to ro/di water.
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Yes hi im not sure if my question is worth asking or not but i was just wondering if it would be better or defeating the purpose of the water saver RO add on.......wondering if it would be better to split the water line going into the first RO so it goes into both RO units then each have there own waste water discharge ? im just concerned that the waste water coming out of the add on RO unit and going into the second one is all bad water which to me seems like its going to make the second RO go bad a lot faster then the first? and also whats the best PSI to run the unit with the water saver add on, 65psi or is there a more optimum PSI and 65 psi is just the minimum? i get well over 150 psi coming out of my tap.
If you split the incoming water going going into the membranes then you basically just have two RO/DI units and would have double the amount of waste water. In that situation it would actually just be better to swap it out for a single 150gpd membrane because you would have lower replacement costs in the future.
Keep in mind that while the waste water feeding the second membrane is higher in TDS then the first membrane, because of the waste water ratio its really not that much of a difference. If for example you had 100TDS going into the first membrane, the waste water coming out and going into the second membrane would likely be around 120-130tds. Assuming the membranes get there normal 98% rejection rate, that means the first membrane would produce water at 2 tds and the second membrane would produce water at 2.6 tds (so the average total tds being 2.3. As you can see, not much of a difference.
The reason we only suggest this unit for systems with relativly low TDS to begin with though is that this effect is amplified the higher the TDS, at 500 tds your actually getting into the range of a few TDS instead of fractions of a single TDS, though even at 500 TDS your looking at 10 out of the first membrane, ~12 out of the second for an average of 11 (and a difference of 1).
RO membranes run better at higher pressures though you shouldn't exceed the 80psi maximum on the unit itself. I would double check the number on the incoming water pressure though as the 150 might have been a different unit of measurement then PSI. Its certainly not impossible to see numbers that high in some areas but 150psi is into exploding pex, toilet, refrigerator, and washing machine territory :-) In fact I think plumbing code in most places is 80psi maximum or your required to have a pressure regulator (may be different in your area though).
1. What is the reason for this upgrade not being recommended for a drinking water system?
2. I have the 5-stage 75 GPD drinking water unit, but do not use the spigot or water tank that came with the system. Would the recommendation to avoid using the 150 GPD upgrade for this drinking water system still be valid?
The water saver upgrade will cause issues with pressure on the tank and drinking water section. In addition the second membrane will have inherently higher TDS from running on the waste water of the first membrane. This would still effect your drinking water. As an alternative the single membrane may be switched to a 150 GPD membrane while also changing the flow restrictor to the correct size for a single 150 GPD restrictor.
I saw somewhere on here that you shouldn't add this kit if you are using your ro/di for drinking water as well. I was wondering why?
In short the second membrane has a negative impact on the pressurized tank and causes issues in the system and pressurized tank. In addition the second membrane is running off of the waste water of the first membrane and will inherently have a higher TDS. Feel free to let us know if you have any further questions!
I have a 100 gpd RO/DI unit. I want to use the upgrade kit which is only for 75 gpd units. If I order the kit and purchase a separate membrane that has a rating of 100 gpd to go inside the casing, would this work? Also, would I need to flush the new membrane for one hour like I did for the original installation?
Thanks so much,
You would need the kit plus the 100 GPD membrane. in addition the flow restrictor from your current units waste line will need to be moved to the waste water of the second membrane. The new membrane will need to be flushed as with the original. Feel free to let us know if you have any further questions!
Hello, what are the TDS readings after filtration? I have an RO/DI unit that has two lines. One straight from the RO membrane and the other from the DI membrane. RO is around 20 ppm and DI is 0. Just wondering if this addition would produce the same result.
If your current single RO membrane has a TDS leaving of 20 the second water saver membrane will have an increasing effect on the TDS as it runs off of the higher TDS waste water from the first membrane. Typically this will increase the TDS up to 30 or so and has the negative impact of decreasing DI resin quicker with your source water. The benefit is that the waste water ratio will be cut in half so less water is thrown away. Usually we recommend the 150 GPD upgrade if your TDS coming out of the first membrane is less than 10.
Does this kit come with the y coupling used before the shut off valve?
Have a great day!
Will the 150 GPD water saver work with a 50 GPH RO system? I'm assuming if it does that it would bring the output down to 125 GPD.
Unfortunately it would not. The membranes need to be the same size otherwise the flow restrictor would be mismatched to one membrane or the other.
Sir, I have a 100 gallon per day system Am I able to use the 150g per day water saver upgrade kit on it? It says in the overview its for a system that is 75gallons per day. so I wasnt sure. If so how many gallons a day would it be.
Unfortunately it has to be a 75gpd system because the membranes have to match. If used with a different sized membrane the flow restrictor would be a mismatch to one membrane or the other.
I'm sold on the need for this RO upgrade kit for my BRS 75 gal RO DI filter but my hesitation comes from plumbing in my membrane flush kit. I think I understand how membrane flush kit will be plumbed in, though not real clear on it. None of the videos seem to address this. Can you explain the hook-up for me? Thanks!
When you install the kit you move the whole waste water assembly to the new membrane housing. The flush kit and flow restrictor go along with the tube. If you have a flush kit it will continue to work and will flush both membranes. As far as installation goes, just follow the instructions as if it isn't there, it doesn't change the process any :)
Hi there I ordered the 150 gallon upgrade to my RO system at home( for drinking purposes not for a reef ) I just ordered it so I have not received it yet but I was curious to further eliminate all waste can I put a auto shut off valve with the float on my barrel I'm saving the waste water in? Will that essentially shut off the RO system or will it cause damages to my RO unit? Thanks for your time!
If you were to plug in a float valve on the waste water and the container was completely full and no waste water would come out it would cause damage to the membrane as that is now the only exit for the water. This will result in much lower quality water making its way through the membrane. Feel free to let us know if you have any further questions!
Hi. I have your BRS 6 STAGE UNIVERSAL WATER SAVER PLUS RO/DI SYSTEM - 150GPD.
Would there be any bennifet to adding this upgrade to my system? Would it reduce waist and increas product water any more than what the system is currently producing?
If it would help, how many ro membranes could be used in series to reduce waist water to a minimum?
The pressure gauge on my 5 stage plus reads between 60-70psi (varies based on time of day, and apparently, ambient temperature..go figure).
Anyway, is that gauge before or after the first membrane? I'm trying to figure out if I'll need to get a booster pump with this.
That is the acting pressure on the membrane (which will be the same between the last carbon block and the flow restrictor). No bosoter pump is needed :)
Would there be any added benefit of adding the Aquatec Permeate (ERP 1000) to the BRS 150 upgrade kit? I have not really seen any demos on the ERP 1000 system so not sure how it operates. I did see that it may be more beneficial when filling pressure tanks, any benefits there for straight water production?
My RO/DI unit has the membrane flush kit. will I have to remove that to install the upgrade?
You will not have to remove it. You will just move it like you would the flow restrictor on a normal unit and then it will function to flush both membranes.
Is a flow restrictor needed or is one already installed on the kit
Have a great day!
I'm really interested in this but this is what I've got. Tds out of tap is 380. Water psi is 57. Is there such a thing as a pre-filter before my ro/di? Am I going to need a booster pump togain 3 psi for this? Thanks
No booster pump would be necessary here. The only real concern would be the TDS levels. With the TDS that high you may see a noticeable difference in the rate of DI consumption after adding the unit. You will still get 0 TDS water out of the DI resin though, it just won't last as long.
How to install it. With so many variation I am concerned in doing it proper. My TDS does not exceed 4 I try to keep it as low as possible for my 225 reef tank and worry about making any changes..but I see benefit from this product. If I sent you schematic of my system could some one send me schematic on proper hook up. Thanks Ron
I have included a link below to our instruction videos. This will walk through the process. Feel free to let us know if you have any further questions!
Can u use 2 upgrades on one unit ??
I don't have a BRS system at this time, but that shouldn't matter for the purpose of my question. I've got a 90 GPD 4 stage system, splitting off a pressurized drinking tank between the membrane and DI. I'm considering dropping to a 75GPD membrane and getting the BRS 150 GPD kit. First question, is it possible to "downgrade" my current membrane to the 75 GPD? Second question, why do you mention at the end of your description that this upgrade is not recommended with drinking water systems? Is it due to the increased membrane output TDS, or is there another reason?
Great question. It is certainly possible to switch from a 90 GPD membrane to a 75 GPD by switching the membrane (The housings are the same size) and switching the flow restrictor on the waste water line to our 75 gallon (550mL) flow restrictor. The reason the water saver upgrade is not recommended is there is an issue with actual water being saved when installed with a pressurized tank, The back pressure from the tank will cause the waste water ratio to remain the same as with a single membrane. So the water saving aspect of the membrane is neglected when used in conjunction with the tank. It will still function and even speed up the process of filling just not reduce the waste water. Feel free to let us know if you have any further questions!
Is it a problem to use 2 - 100 gal membrane instead of the 75 gal upgrade kit ? Thanks
Hope this helps!
Hi, is this the upgrade kit for BRS 5 Stage RO/DI System - 75GPD which I purchased before. And is it really can cut down the amount of waste water by 50% as I have watched the video by Mr. Saltwater Tank??
That is true. Assuming you have enough water pressure (65psi) and water temp, the kit would allow you to produce twice as much product water for the same amount of waste water (ie, cut your waste water in half).
I have a APEC Water ROES-50gpd System
Will the BRS 150 GPD Water Saver Upgrade Kit work on the apec 50gpd system?
In order for the 150 gpd upgrade kit to work you would need to change your current membrane to a 75GPD membrane and the flow restrictor to 550mL. After these adjustments have been made you can add the kit on.
Hi, I have a 75 GPD setup with a 550 flow restrictor. If I upgrade to the 150 GPD, do I need to change the restrictor to a different size?
This kit will actually only add another 75 GPD membrane and not switch the membrane meaning your flow restrictor will be the same as you currently have (550).
I'm getting 58 PSI according to my pressure gauge. I understand that 65 psi is what is required for this to effectively double the output. Will this operate, albeit less efficiently, with sub 65 PSI or is 65 what is really needed for this to be effective. At 58-60 PSI is the improvement negligible or will this be close to double the output?
With less pressure your system will still have improved performance however the second membrane will be under less PSI and not keep it at a 2:1 ratio most likely closer to a 3:1. Feel free to let us know if you have any further questions!
The install video dose not seem to be working. Can you send me some instruction on how to install this upgrade.
Does this link to the installation video work for you?
Video is really the easiest way to do this but if your computer does not have the ability to play YouTube video's just let us know and we will get you figured out.
How long should I flush the membranes for and how often?
The membrane can be flushed for around 5-10 minutes before and after each use. Feel free to let us know if you have any further questions!
Ok so i know you say not to put it on if you are using it for drinking water. i am on city water and have about 70 ps pressure. we use it to make the water better then the city and the carbon filters should do virtually the same as those pitcher filters so i dont see why the caution. also what affects on the pressure tank? i ask because i have a one way check valve on the line going out to the pressure tank that is plumbed in after the ro membrane and before the DI. what effect have you seen when using it with a pressure tank for drinking water?
Th 150 GPD upgrade kit should not be used on the drinking water systems as it will not reduce the amount of waste water being produced. The pressure will have the same ratio as a single membrane. Additionally the Tank will have a short life span. The TDS from the second membrane will increase allowing for a higher amount of TDS into the drinking water. Feel free to let us know if you have any further questions!
I'm new to this rodi stuff but I want to upgrade my system witch is a 90 gpd .I want to know what size membrane do I need . Can I use something bigger ..thank you
What would be the correct size flow restrictor with this kit Now that your running two 75 GPD membranes?
The flow restrictor will remain the same as the water flowing through both membranes will still need to be the same. The 550mL flow restrictor is recommended.
Would this be worth it on a well
Depending on the pressure that your well pump is able to produce you may need to purchase a booster pump to efficiently run the 150gpd water saving upgrade kit. The kit does need about 65 PSI to operate, where most wells will shut off around 40 – 50 psi. The kits really help reduce the overall amount of waste water produced per gallon of product water. Usually on a well, since you don’t have to pay for incoming water, the waste is not so much of an issue as simply just the speed that water is produced.
I have heard that running membranes in series like this can create hard to diagnose issues with water quality long term due to an insufficient volume of flush water on the membranes. This came from a municipal water guy that indicated that while parallel membranes were ok, running them in series would result in shorter life and the possibility of impurities bleeding through over time. Is this a safe solution long term particularly on delicate sps dominant systems?
It is true that running membranes in series is a bit of a trade-off. This can somewhat shorten the life of the membrane, particularly the 2nd in series in some cases and will slightly increase the TDS of the output water, which then in turn may impact DI resin consumption. For this reason we don't normally recommend these units for use on high TDS source water (over 200ppm). For municipal water systems with relatively clean water and low to moderate TDS, the overall impact is very low and is typically worth the trade-off for the increased efficiency in water usage and production rate. This is of particular interest to many of our customers in areas where water costs can be high and efficiency is a key concern.
Wondering if this addition would work on a 50gpd unit made by another manufacturer?
This will include a 75 GPD membrane and as they are different sizes the unit will either need another 50 GPD membrane instead to match the current flow restrictor or the flow restrictor and current 0 membrane will need to be changed to work with a 75GPD.
Will the membrane flush kit effectively flush both membranes when used with this upgrade? Also is it still possible to use a DI bypass valve?
It sure would. It also wouldn't make any difference to whether you choose to bypass the DI (or just disconnect the DI altogether).
I have the BRS 5 STAGE PLUS RO/DI SYSTEM - 75GPD, will I need another flush kit if I do this upgrade?
Fortunately you will not. Both membranes operate off the same flow restrictor and thus only the existing flush kit is needed.
Does this kit come with a flow restrictor?
If not would I need the 75 gpd or the 150 gpd flow restrictor.
It does not but you actually don't want to switch your floor restrictor. You want to stick with the same 75gpd restrictor you have.
I was wondering which is better for water quality and less waste water, the 150gpd upgrade kit, or the 150gpd membrane by itself? Also, if I add the auto flushing valve, do I use the one for a 150gpd membrane, or the one for 75gpd membrane on this kit? Thank you.
It depends on what your main goal is. The 150gpd upgrade kit is better for waste water but will technically create slightly worse quality of water (though unless you have very high TDS to begin with it would be unmeasurable difference to most). If you do have high TDS though we wouldn't recommend the 150gpd upgrade kit.
For an auto flush valve/flow restrictor you would want the proper size for the membrane(s). If you use the 150gpd membrane you want the 150gpd size, if you are using 75gpd membrane(s) then you would want the the 75gpd size.
Could I use this for my 5 stage deluxe, with the drinking add on? I use my 5 stage for both my reef tank and to supply water to my fridge.
With the drinking water add-on you will have a lot more back pressure which would make the dual system a lot less efficient. If your goal is to reduce waste water you would likely be better served by a permeate pump. The permeate pump uses the pressure from your waste water to reduce the effect of the storage tanks back pressure. This will make your existing membrane more efficient and allow you to get more pressure in the tank as well. Its compatible with systems up to 100gpd.
I have the BRS 5 STAGE PLUS RO/DI SYSTEM - 75GPD My water pressure gauge is reading 43lbs, In your viedo you say that i need 65 lbs going in to the unit . Was wondering if the 43 lbs is enough pressure for the BRS 150 GPD Water Saver Upgrade Kit to work. I am not really sure where the gauge is at on the BRS 5 STAGE PLUS RO/DI SYSTEM - 75GPD I am guessing that it is after all the membranes to be able to tell when they need change. Can you please let me know if you think this will work or will I have to get a booster pump? Thank You Michael
The 150gpd water saving upgrade kit requires 65psi. If your unit only has 43psi then you would need to increase the pressure to 65psi to add the kit so a booster pump would be necessary.
I've read that if you cut down you waste water you will blows thigh RO filters as well as DI filter faster. If there any truth to this? I live the speed and my last water is so much lower. Just not sure I want to blow though the filters if there is any truth to this..
Its true that artificially restricting the amount of waste water (which is really flush water) a membrane receives will likely reduce the membrane lifespan and increase the TDS of the out-coming water which will decrease the lifespan of the DI resin as well, though it shouldn't have any sort of negative effect on the prefilters themselves.
Its important to note that this is NOT how the 150gpd upgrade kit works though. The 150gpd upgrade kit adds a second membrane to reprocess the waste water of the first membrane. With the kit each membrane actually continues to get the minimum amount of flush water (actually one of them even gets extra flush water).